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Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:59 am
by BluBob
Wonderful Victor!
Thank you so very much for sharing this video.
Sympathetic Ten by Jörg Alexander, and presented by Eric Mead was just perfect!
Bob~

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:35 am
by VictorS
BluBob wrote:Wonderful Victor!
Thank you so very much for sharing this video.
Sympathetic Ten by Jörg Alexander, and presented by Eric Mead was just perfect!
Bob~
You're most welcome Bob. This trick is highly recommended and everything is cleverly constructed. I plan to practice this again and perform it in the special occasion like wedding party. A nice beautiful moral story can be added also by performing this routine.

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:08 am
by BluBob
Thanks again Victor.
I have Eric Mead's book "Tangled Web."
I am a fan, and enjoy reading his advice and psychologies.

I saw Eric do the most perfect "Coins and Cylinder" (other than John Ramsay) I ever saw.
I have the book by Victor Farelli entitled "John Ramsay's Cylinder and Coins" from 1948.
I also have the Ramsay books by Andrew Galloway ...

PS. I love the misdirection process for the coin vanish!

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:33 am
by VictorS
Bob, thanks for ringing the bell again about Tangled Web. I heard a lot of good review on the book. Seems that I need to take a look for that one. ;)

And thanks for mentioning Coins and Cylinder. I watch Eric`s routine here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR1eJUnz7c8
and I love it so much ! You are right, his handling is quite different and actually he eliminates some "moves" that quite risky to be executed in the normal C&C routine. Especially the sound problem. Really clever indeed. Unfortunately I haven`t any chance to get in touch at this routine. The props look quite simple but it takes a quite a lot of "investment" for me especially if we want to have a good quality one. Maybe I should start :) Thanks Bob!

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:06 am
by David DeTenyo
VictorS wrote: ... I watch Eric`s routine here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR1eJUnz7c8
Absolutely AMAZING :o I love this kind of magic ... slow, elegant, all looking so natural and easy ... absolutely brilliant.
Thanks for sharing this guys!

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:18 pm
by VictorS
Best illusion of the year ! Click the link to watch the vids.
http://illusionoftheyear.com/

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:30 pm
by David DeTenyo
I absolutely LOVE this stuff - thanks Victor!

By the way the third one reminded me of a great horror movie I saw in the movie theater last week, The Conjuring 2, still recovering from it :shock:

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:58 pm
by Roberto B.
WOW...i think the second place should have won....Tenyo should recruit Mr. Kokichi Sugihara...see other application of his ideas:
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Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:12 pm
by Rob Rand
Wow! This is something SimonC would love to make! :)

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:01 pm
by VictorS
Roberto B. wrote:WOW...i think the second place should have won....Tenyo should recruit Mr. Kokichi Sugihara...see other application of his ideas:
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I'm totally agree with you Roberto ;)

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:13 am
by John B.
VictorS wrote:
Roberto B. wrote:WOW...i think the second place should have won....Tenyo should recruit Mr. Kokichi Sugihara...see other application of his ideas:
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I'm totally agree with you Roberto ;)
Agreed! This is really awesome!

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:03 am
by SimonC
Awesome!

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:31 pm
by EvanS
Excellent! Very Jerry Andrus-like.

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:19 am
by VictorS
Dan Harlan fooled Pen and Teller with his famous Cartoon Deck a.k.a Tenyo Animation Card. Sounds impossible huh...but I believe he will fool all of us too !! :D :D :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH5NcrkTMBY

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:14 am
by SimonC
I did spot something... It seems he has all of the final reveal cards lined up along the back of his table. It was always going to be a heart as he was using equivoque so there's 13 cards lined up (maybe even less if he didn't have the court cards or ace, his wording was a bit interesting with those ones). You can see him steal something from the back of his table. The clever thing is he still does all of the moves as if he was performing animation card so penn and teller think they know what's happening.

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:25 pm
by John B.
I don't think he used a magician's force for the heart because he says choose one that you want to keep. Perhaps some type of indexing system? It looks like he is loading it from underneath the table when he scoops the cards.

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:40 am
by SimonC
When I do a magicians force I use the words keep and take. So he could say "which do you want to keep?" She says hearts "ok well throw away the diamonds and keep the hearts" she says diamonds "ok you keep the diamonds and thatvleaves me with the hearts"
"Take" can be used in a similar way, I always say "which of these shall I take?"
It can be either
Ok I'll take these away
Or
So we'll take these ones great

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:48 am
by VictorS
But Simon, Dan clearly mentioned this sentence :"... whatever you CHOOSE, is what we`ll use." It`s little bit risky by saying that statement if he want to force the color. And so far I know, the word "choose" is taboo in the world of equivoque. Let`s keep this as a mystery and stay happy being fooled :) :)

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:58 pm
by MarkSoCal
Two Percent Tacks baffled me......especially since everything can be examined at the end.
Perhaps a good example of magic with everyday objects, in this case desk items you might have in your home
or office.
https://youtu.be/b6IgQRQuc4s

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:12 pm
by SimonC
Those are some very attractive tacks ;)

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:54 pm
by MarkSoCal
Ha!....I thought so too...... What I did like is that the spectator is left to examine two actual pin holes
in the bill,l and two real tacks embedded in the wood top.

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:02 pm
by Rob Rand
This is incredible! These tacks must be gimmicked, needle slides into the holder, 2 contra magnets to let the tacks 'float'?

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:26 am
by BluBob
VictorS wrote:But Simon, Dan clearly mentioned this sentence :"... whatever you CHOOSE, is what we`ll use." It`s little bit risky by saying that statement if he want to force the color. And so far I know, the word "choose" is taboo in the world of equivoque. Let`s keep this as a mystery and stay happy being fooled :) :)
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Victor,
You are correct ...

I will assure you (AND SIMON) that in the Dan Harlan "CardToon" trick, the spectator has an absolute FREE choice! As unbelievable as this sounds ... it's true. This is a very, VERY clever effect!

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:41 am
by BluBob
Rob Rand wrote:This is incredible! These tacks must be gimmicked, needle slides into the holder, 2 contra magnets to let the tacks 'float'?
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YES Rob,

AND

I am guessing that the holes were already there. If you pause the video, and look at where the pin closest to the camera was placed, then drag the video to the point where you observe the holes, you will notice that the hole closest to the camera is not exactly where it should be if an actual tack penetration had occurred.

I have never seen this, but I like the idea ... it needs a few refinements though.

I.E. Those tacks probably would not be that easy to push into hard wood. (especially pushed to the point where they are "FLUSH."

Re: This one baffled me...

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:50 am
by SimonC
BluBob wrote:
VictorS wrote:But Simon, Dan clearly mentioned this sentence :"... whatever you CHOOSE, is what we`ll use." It`s little bit risky by saying that statement if he want to force the color. And so far I know, the word "choose" is taboo in the world of equivoque. Let`s keep this as a mystery and stay happy being fooled :) :)
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Victor,
You are correct ...

I will assure you (AND SIMON) that in the Dan Harlan "CardToon" trick, the spectator has an absolute FREE choice! As unbelievable as this sounds ... it's true. This is a very, VERY clever effect!
I have cartoon, it's awesome :) I know in that trick you have a free choice but the kicker in this effect is that none of the cards are gimmicks as they are in the original. Watch the vid and you will see he steals the final card from the back of his table. We're thinking there's some index of either all the Reds or just the hearts