CollinW wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:02 pm
Brett H wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:05 pm
Tenyo also has a thing against reprinting Plus Ones prior to 2006 (Magical Calendar). We have the reprints of Sukkaku Scale (as well as the bigger version made I think 1-2 years ago), and Dream Psychometry being a part of the 2017 "Mentalism T-line". But aside from those,
Tenyo avoids everything from 1996-2005 as hard as they can.
That's interesting, do you know why they avoid those years?
There isn't much of anything stating that they won't reprint the 1996-2005 tricks. All I really have is conjecture and notice trends and patterns. The only Plus Ones that did get a reprint from that era was Sakkaku Scale and Dream Psychometry. And Dream Psychometry was the more current one--and it got added into the T-line 18 years after it's initial release.
=rolls up sleeves=
Psychic Battle - This is a cute trick, but compared to the other 27 Plus Ones that have been released, it's hard for it to stand on it's own--at least, it's just seldom talked about and I can only assume that it just isn't in demand. It has the issue of being a "one trick pony" that doesn't bode well for repeat performances. And of the other handful of Plus Ones that are also "one trick ponies", most had a more powerful punch. And while this may be subjective, Psychic Battle has one of the more obscure themes of the Plus One inventory, to where you practically have to commit to the Psychic Battle theme (similar to hwo you have to commit to the Clairvoyance Tester theme). This was Tenyo's first go at Plus Ones, so I'm not going to poo-poo on it and be "this is the worst". Far from it. It's a neat trick, don't get me wrong. It's just that there are other Plus Ones that could easily get reprinted before we see a reprinted Psychic Battle.
Four Chance Game - This one has so much going against it. You have the die--which isn't anything special, but in the realm of Plus Ones, if it isn't card stock, it's "odd materials". You have the playing board and the rules printed with perforations for the chips. This trick could only get reprinted as it's own T-line trick like Dream Psychometrty did with all the odd materials going for it. The big reason I don't thibnk it'll get reprinted is that it is an ELABORATE sucker trick. Of all the Plus Ones, it absolutely takes the longest to perform, and if you repeat the performance, you arouse suspicion and people will immediately flag you're doing something--they won't know what, but they will be suspicious until you put it away.
Fortune Telling Card - It has a plastic wand, so that's a strike against it for "odd materials". But that's probably the only thing going against it, other than of all the other Plus Ones, this one commands the most table space. The latter argument is probably a non-factor, but something to point out.
Telephone Telepathy - Oh boy. "finite tricks". This trick is a booklet, and every performance, you use up 1 page. so you can only use it X number of times and you have to get another one. The booklet is "odd materials" because it's printed paper with perforations. I'm not sure if a compiled booklet like this costs a lot--production-wise, but it doesn't seem like Tenyo works with straight printed paper tricks as much as it does cardstock tricks. And Tenyo typically does not mess with "finite" tricks much. We see them in the T-line every so often (Note-a-Bill, Magic Memo Pad, etc.). To note, Magical Cafe is the only other "finite" trick in the Plus One inventory, and it's one of the few "recent" Tenyo that hasn't got a reprint. That indicates to me that they aren't going to touch either of these tricks.
Prediction Egg - This trick is pretty good and fun. There is a slight "finite" aspect to it with using the origami snake heads. But that's another issue, I think the snake head is meant to be a "surprise" aspect of the trick and doesn't work as well for repeat performances. Other than that, you have two different kinds of cards going into this trick: the snake heads, and the prediction cards themselves. Maybe printing two different kinds of cards to produce one trick is too expensive.
Chips of Moonless Night - the chips look like plastic with stickers for the picture. So right there, "odd materials".
Ghost Puzzle - I could be wrong, but this MAY have been reprinted a long time ago. I'm not 100% on this. It is kind of a popular older Plus One. Other than it being a slow-burning "one trick pony", I don't see why this hasn't been reprinted. Then again, a lot of the more current Plus Ones perform faster.
Magical Word - This absolutely won't get reprinted--at least, in the capacity that we are seeing with the recent 6 reprinted Plus Ones where every retailer is selling them. If this trick DOES get reprinted, it's happening 1 of two ways:
1) it's included in a sort of box set with other tricks
2) it's reprinted, but a small batch that accounts for just it's Japanese consumer base.
The problem with Magical Word is that it completely relies on knowing Japanese--as Japanese words are on the cards--the secret ties into this. It's next to impossible to get the trick to work in another language unless you are absolutely nuts and figure out a way to do it and make your own after learning the secret.
All this said, I was absolutely floored when A Whole New Whole was reprinted and mass distributed to magic retailers months after it's initial release in the Plus One campaign in Japan. As well as the recent reprints of: Calendar, Burger, Sneakers, Chocolate, Sushi, and Charisma. I was completekly surprised that those happened.
That said, some more notes:
- I would not be surprised if Sakkaku Scale gets reprinted in the future, especially since Tenyo released a "Deluxe" larger version of it and now it's pretty damn hard to find. 'Scale is unilaterally a part of nearly every collectors "Top 5" of Plus Ones.
- I WANT Mind Roulette to get reprinted, but the felt "board" is "odd materials" and the gambling routine may not be suitable for younger customers (because Tenyo is sold in Japan as a toy), as Tenyo doesn't dabble with gambling themes often. It's extremely rare.
- I don't think Magician's Clock will get a reprint. The best time for it to have got reprinted was during the pandemic when everyone was inside and Instagram/TikTok/Youtube/Zoom magic was the RAGE. If a GLOBAL PANDEMIC didn't trigger it's reprint, I'd be absolutely floored to see it reprinted at this point.
- I am 99.9% positive that: Four Chance Game, Telephone Telepathy, Magical Cafe, and Magical Word will not get a reprint.
- Image Generator Mini is going to be included in a 3-trick mentalist box set--but I don't think it's exactly a total "reprint", per se, considering I.G.M. is a microfiber cloth and considered "odd materials". I think that's because the amount of redeemed I.G.M.s that year were low and they just have a pile of I.G.M.s that are collecting dust and it's only good business to plus them in a box set like this.